Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Suicide?

In chapter 14, Melba expresses a desire to die to her grandmother (Beals 160). How does Grandma India respond? (Be sure to include a paraphrase with the correct citation). Do you think this was a good answer? Be detailed in your response.

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  1. As Beals said, Grandma India said that it was a good idea because it was going to make the segregationists really happy, (Beals 160). Grandma India told Melba to start that faster so she can end her life quicker. I don't think this is a good response because it shows that they don't really care about them if they were dead or alive. That shows a lot of disrespect and how much love someone has for you.

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  2. Itzel Ortiz Room 304May 13, 2009 at 7:49 AM

    Grandma India reponded by saying "Good idea" and then she was sayin its a good idea but she was sarcastic(Beals 160).She was also telling her some headlines they will have on the news of her death like "Little Rock heroine gives in to segregationists-kills herself" and "Melba Patillo died by her own hand because she was afraid of facing God's assignment for her"(Beals 160).I think it was a good answer to her because now Melba will think about killing herself a little less and she will just try to bear all that is happening to her.

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  3. Grandma respoce in a angry manner then when Melba tells her she does'nt even look up. But she keeps making up headlines telling her that she would give her assultants a victory. you can notice that Grandma is angry for what Melba told her. I now this because of what she said that the sooner she dies more happy the segregationist will be(Beals 160). This is impartant because it shows the expresion on Grandma's face. Yes ,it is a good answer because she needs to learned that theirs people that love her and she will take their happineess with her.

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  4. Grandma India respond (that the sooner melba gets started the quicker she'll make the segragationists happy).( The headlines will read,'Little Rock heroine gives in to segragationists-kills herself).I do think this was a good answer cause grandma is right and melba is wrong. Also grandma doesn't like looking bad for her people.Grandma is teaching melba what would happen if melba dies.

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  5. Xochitl G room 304May 13, 2009 at 7:52 AM

    Grandmother Indias response was "good idea" but she didnt look up as though she was alarmed Melba was hurt because she didnt even look up and didnt say anything, afterwords grandma India tells Melba,"Little Rock heroine gives into segregationists-kills herself"(Beals 160).I think she gave good answers because she`s trying to make Melba think because she keeps making headlines like after her "supposed" suicide, that made Melba angry but i think grandma IndIA made her think about what she was saying.

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  6. When Melba finally decides that she doesn’t want to suffer anymore she goes to her grandmother and tells her that she wants to kill herself. Grandma India responds "Good Idea" (Beal 160.) Melba was so shocked by the way that she responds by saying that it’s a good idea. It was a good response because grandmother India was using reverse psychology by saying that if you kill yourself the segrationaist have won and then she began to point out a bunch of headlines about how she killed herself. So when grandma India was pointing out all of these headlines and saying that its good that she will kill herself and about how the segregationist will be celebrating and since she pointed out all of the side affects of her death it made melba rethink it so that is why it was a good response.

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  7. Crystal B. Room 304May 13, 2009 at 7:53 AM

    Grandma India said it was a good idea and the sooner the better so the segregationists will be happy.” The sooner you get started, the sooner you'll make the segregations real happy"(Beals 160). I think it was a good answer because then Melba would get mad and start to think why she is important to the civil rights movement.

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  8. Grandma India starts acting as if it was a good idea.She starts speaking louder than usual, she starts calling out newspaper headlines about how segregationists would celebrate Melba's death(Beals 160-161).

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  9. Based on what I read Grandma India responds saying "good idea"(Beals 160). I think this was a good way to respond because she made her think that okay go ahead kill yourself it will make the white people happy knowing that they are getting into the your head. When Melba told Grandma India she just said "good idea"(Beals 160). Melba didn't understand, then she told her again and Grandma India just said "I heard you the sooner you start, the sooner you'll make the segregationist real happy"(Beals 160).

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  10. grama india response to what melba told her that she wanted to die,grama india acted normal and said "yes, its a good idea"grama india kep telling her headline names that they probably put in the paper of her death.in a way she was fine with it,melba in other and she got angry of the response grama india had with her thought of her dying."i tlod he bout my wish to be dead.good idea, she said...i whimpered oout my confession.instea, she continued dusting the dinning room table.my feelings were hurt"(Beals160)

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  11. Brenda R. Room304May 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM

    In chapter 14, Melba wishes she was gone for some time and wish she was dead. When Melba told Grandma India. Grandma India told Melba,Oh good idea and that the white people would like to hear that if Melba did kill herself they would say 7 to go and they would just laugh at what she did and not feel bad for Melba(Beals 160). Yes, I think that Grandma India did respond good. I think this because If she did kill herself the white people would just make fun of what she did, and really care about her. They would just celebrate for their one out _to go. After Grandma India told her this Melba did realize that what she was wishing for was not warrior like and wasn't a really good idea.

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  12. Lisset B. Room 304May 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM

    Grandma India responds that it would be a good idea for her to die. In the book Grandma India tells her that's what segregationists want you to do they want you to give up and die (Beals 160). I think that it was good answer because that gave Melba the idea that it wasn't a good idea to die. If Grandma India would have said don't say does things then Melba would have kept that in her mind. She would have had second thoughts about wanting to die. Now in her mind she wants to live now because she does not want to give the segregationist the pleasure of making a Little Rock Nine member suicide herself.

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  13. melba expresses a desire to die to her grandmother because she doesn't like to be mis- treated. grama india respond was that she thought that melba was kinda crazy

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  14. Grandma India responds by telling her that it’s a good idea with no emotion. Then she said the sooner Melba kills herself the sooner she’ll make the segregationist happy. Grandma India then began to make up headlines “Little Rock heroine gives in to segregationist-kills herself.’”(Beals Pg.160). When grandma India said those things Melba was sad and angry because she though that grandma India didn’t care about her. After grandma had said more things to Melba, she began to realize that grandma India had only said those things to make Melba change her mind about killing herself. In my opinion this was a good answer because Melba cannot be cuddled all the life especially now that she is going to Central High where they treat her like dirt. Grandma India gave Melba “tough love” to help me. After that Melba began to think and then she remembered that she would also fail not only her family and friends but God also.

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  15. As Melba tells her grandma that she wanted to die, her grandma told her to go ahead and that all the white people would enjoy reading about her death (Beals page 160). After that she starts explaining all the different possible headlines on the newspaper and broadcasts. I don’t think it was the right way to respond. Although I get why she might have done it, it wasn’t right because encouraging her to die now then later wasn’t going to fix anything. It was only going to make Melba want to die even more, having that one of the people that is most important to her is happy about her idea of die. It would have been better talking to her and explaining that she shouldn’t do it because it would only give the white people joy inside that they had been apart of the killing of one of the Little Rock Nine. Without them even having to plan the killing or do anything in their part because Melba took all the work away by killing herself. All in all, it wasn’t right how Melbas grandma responded to her thought of suicide.

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  16. israel b room 304May 13, 2009 at 8:02 AM

    After Melba decides she wants to kill herself grandma India encourages her by telling her if she kills herself the segregationist will win. Grandma India says headlines will read, “Little rock heroine gives in to segregations –kills herself”(melba 160). By telling Melba that I think her grandma gave her a good answer because it did make her change her mind and kept fighting for what she believed was right.

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  17. Grandma India responds by sayin "Good idea; How do you plan going about it?"(Beals 160).I think it was a good answer because she said it sarcastically and then she told Melba about how that would make the segregationists very happy.And Melba realized dying was not a good idea.

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  18. Jerry C. Room 304May 13, 2009 at 8:02 AM

    Grandma india respond like if it was a good idea to die. she starts talking louder than usual and started telling Melba, "the sooner you die the sooner you will make the segregationists real happy." (Beals 160)
    then melba said, What do you mean? she was so angry she kept talking like she didnt care at all. Melba then realizes dying wasnt a good idea after all.

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  19. Ricardo Estrada room 304May 13, 2009 at 8:03 AM

    Grandma India’s response to Melba wishing to be dead was strange. She had said that it was a good idea, but in a mad way. In my opinion Grandma India was trying to tell Melba that if she died segregationist would be happy, and it would be a victory for them (Beals 160). It was a good answer because they have done a lot of important things just to give up right now.

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  20. Grandmother India responded saying “Good idea.”(Beals 160). She also said “how does she plan on killing herself”(Beals 160). Which was quite shocking to me for a family member to say that but as I kept reading I notice she wasn’t serious she said it sarcastically, she was actually mad that Melba said that and she said “If Melba kills herself she’ll let the whites win because that’s exactly what they want”(Beals 160). I feel Grandma India was right in saying that because its true that if Melba does decide to kill herself whites will know that they can break the rest of the Little Rock Nine and keep going.

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  21. i remeber that grandma india response was like go ahead kill your self that only make the segregationist happier becauase that got rid of one person no just to get rid of the other kids. one example is that grandma india saying that she was like to weak for the mission god sent her to do because she can't handle the tormenting and taunt. another one is how she describes the head lines of her suicide being posted on the newspaper because to show that every one in the south would be proud becuase they drove and nigger to commit suicide(Beals 160).

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  22. According to Beals"Grandma India thought it was a good idea to kill herself also that she was giving the segregationsts what they want "(Beals 160).
    I think it was a good idea because she knew she would never say that so she'd be confused and really think about it.So she was using reverse physchology on Melba.

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  23. She wishes she was dead so that she doesn't have to go to Central High School anymore(Beals 160). She wants to die so that she doesn't feel bad anymore.Melba is tired of everything that the students of Central High School do to her everyday, and that no one will defend her.

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  24. Melbas grandma said it was a good idea and started telling Melba how the whites would throw a party.She says how headlines everywhere would say that she gave in and killed herself.This is a good idea because it will make Melba think twice about killing herself.Grandma India tells Melba how she gave up her job as gods warriors.

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  25. Bianca C. Room 303May 13, 2009 at 9:04 AM

    Grandma India was acting like she didnt care if Melba wanted to die. She was acting like that to show Melba that that's just what the integrationists wanted. By grandma India acting like that, melba realized that dying wasnt a good idea. Yeah i think this was a good answer because if grandma india showed that she cared then melba wouldnt have realized that dying aint a good idea and she would have commited suicide.

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  26. Antonio R Room 303May 13, 2009 at 9:04 AM

    Based on what I have read when she told her that India didnt get mad. She talk as she didnt care.HER words were"good idea"(Beals 160). She was inventing headlines of her death and thats when she got furious.Then she realized that dying is not the answer. Grandma India said that do what ever you pleased.

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  27. Grandma India tells Melba that it is a good idea. I think this was a good answer because now Melba will think about it before she does it because she is going to think that no one wants her there and that would want her to stay and actually make a diffrence.Melba tells grandma India that she wants to kill herself and her grandma's response was go ahead that would make the white people real happy(Beals 160).

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  28. lorena munoz room 303May 13, 2009 at 9:05 AM

    Grandma India responds by saying that would be a good idea if she dies for the white people because that would mean they won a battle. She says that the white people will probably celebrate and say 2 down and 7 to go. Grandma India is being sarcastic. I think it was a good answer because that made Melba realize that she was right and that dying would only make things worse and that would be failing her people. She says its a good idea,(Beals 160).

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  29. Grandma India respond was that she just laugh and said "ok" and then melba thought that she wasnt listening and told her again but she did listen. Grandma India was acting like she didnt care if Melba wanted to die so melba realized that dying wasnt a good idea. From my view point I think yeah it was a good answer from grandma india because if she had said that she did care probaly she would of want to suicide herself.

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  30. yesenia mancilla room 303May 13, 2009 at 9:07 AM

    Grandma India said it was a good idea lookat meas though she wasn't almared after what she had said.I think it was a good responce because then she will think about it and would think that they want to see her dead .She wiil not do it.

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  31. lissette potales room303May 13, 2009 at 9:07 AM

    When Melba expresses a desire to die to her grandmother how she responds is that's a good idea if she dies cause if she does the white people won the battle. I think that her resopond was a good answer because how grandam said it as sarcatic, it made Melba thinik that it was a bad idea because that is what the white people want her to do.

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  32. granma india's reaction was that she told melba to go ahead and wish that. if melba whats to die to go right ahead and die.melba thougth that grandma india was going to say not to say that.


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  33. Tania Gonzalez 303May 13, 2009 at 9:08 AM

    Geandma India was acting like she didn't care if Melba wanted to die. She was acting like that to show Melba that's just what the intergrationists wanted. By grandma India acting like that,Melba realized that dying wasn't a good idea. I think it was a good answer because if grandma India shouldn't have acted careless maybe Melba wouldn't have listened to her.

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  34. Grandma India respond by telling her it would be a good idea.I think it was a good answer because then Melba will think before she actually kills her self.Grandma India said "Good idea,the sonner you start,the sonner you'll make the segregatoinists real happy."{Beals 160} What Grandma India is trying to tell Melba is that if she kills her self now that would make white people think that they are winnig the battle between integrating Central high.

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  35. Her Respond is like if she didnt care.."What do you mean?" I gasped. "I felt really angry that she talked as though she didn't care."(Beals 160)..I choose this because its a good quote bout grandma India respond.

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  36. Based on what I read Grandma India responded like if she didn't care wether she died or not.To show that she didn't care she was even helping her choose a good headline for when they broadcast the news that she had died.According to Beals Grandma India responded"Good Idea! How did u plan on going about it"(Beals 160). If my grandmother ever responded me that way i would feel like she gave up on me because it would seem like she dosen't care about me.

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  37. No, because shes just going threw a hard, painful situation. Like she said "I do wish I were dead".Then all the pain and hurt would be over.(Beals160).Then shes going to regret saying that she wants to die.I understand because one time I didnt want to go to a club for music and I one time wish to die because Im \

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  38. grandma india response by saying okay to watever she said .in my opinion i think that grandma india gave her a good respaonse because if melba does that the whites are goig to be happy.According to Beals grandma respondedby saying "i said a good idea" (beals ,160) .

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  39. Grandma India's response was that killing herself would be chicking out on God's plan for her (Beals 160). She suprosed Melba b acting as if she didn't; she used sarcasm to make Melba understand that killing herself would only please the segerationist.

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  40. Well from what i have read, i say that Melba wants to kill her self because she thinks that if she dies, the intergration would turn better. Her Grandma India, tells her "Good idea", in a sarcastic tone. I would have been really upset with her because i wouldnt like my grand daughter to be talking in that type.

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  41. Mariela O. Room 302May 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    When Melba tells her grandmother that she wishes to die her grandmother responds very strangely. Instead of trying to comfort her she says its a good idea. Melba repeats what she said and so does her grandmother. She starts asking how she's planning on killing herself and comes up with many different headlines that might be in the newspapers. Then, she says how there would parties and dancing because of her death so Melba realizes that dying isn't such a good idea. (Beals 160-161). I think that this helped Melba realize what the right choice would be on her own. It seems kind of harsh to me that she responded this way, but it did get Melba to think about it more clearly. By telling her about the white people's reactions and all the rejoicing there would be, Melba saw that she wouldn't do any good by dying. Although, if I were her I would be a little hurt in the beginning to hear my own grandmother tell me that it was a good idea to die. It's a good thing that Melba understood what she was being told and that her grandmother explained her true feelings aferward.

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  42. she said it was good if she would die because it will help the segregatoinists win. that she kills herself because she was scared of the segregatoinists. they would make a big party because melba gave up.yes i believe its a good idea to say that because it helped melba not to quit fighting that it wasnt going to be easy to make intergration in central high.(160, patillo)

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  43. Grandma India respond "good idea" Melba get mad because she was expecting something else but.But Grandma India response was really a good respones because it was making her think,cause she was saying all the head lines, and trying to say that she gave in to the white people.Also that she did all this for nothing,and peole will think it will be easyer to bring the others down just like her.

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  44. Everardo R. Rm 302May 13, 2009 at 11:05 AM

    How grandma india responded is that she said that it was a good idea and she said how do you go about it i think this is bad because im pretty sure if i told my mom im going to kill my self she would freak out(beals 160)

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  45. Grandma India acted as if it was nothing like she didn’t care about her wanting to die. Melba was surprise at her reaction and she felt as if Grandma India didn’t love her (Beals 160). I think that it was the right answer because I felt as if Melba is becoming the victim at sometimes. She always feel like she wants to die she needs to move on. I think that Grandma India is tired of giving her advice and Melba not using it in her convenience.

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  46. From my view point grandmas respond was sarcastic she stated "good idea "(beals 160).This was a bad response because she was sarcastic to melba she had this mischiveious expresion while melba was tring to get that desire.

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  47. Grandma Induia responded in a way that surprised her.That was becuase Grandma just told her that"it was fine and to go ahead and kill herself but that while shes at it to go ahead and take her mother with her because it would devaste her"(Beals 160). I don't think this was a verry good responce because when you tell someone that you want to kill yourself you would think they would tried to get you out of killing yourself or advise you to do something about it like to go to therapy ar something to get all youre stress and feelings out.

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  48. Grandma India was acting has if she didnt care because she said "The sooner you get started the sooner youll make the segregations real happy"(Beals 160). what she is trying to say that if she gives up now no one will ever believe in her and have no trust bacause its just beginning. granma india also said sure go ahead next they will be saying Melba Patillo diedby her own because she was afraid of facing gods assisment for her.(Beals 160)

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  49. Javier Delgado 302May 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    How Melba Grandma respond is when Melba wishes she were dead and she said " God please let me dead until the end of the year"(Beals 159).So her Grandma told her to strong.So like if they do something bad to her she should say thank you and your welcome

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  50. Grandma India responds by saying that it was a good idea. The sooner she did it the happier the whites would become. She even came up with a headline "'Little Rock heroin gives into segregationist-kills herself'"(Beals 160). I think it was a good answer because it showed Melba that people wouldn't be sad for her instead they would be really happy about it. It made her realize that she was wrong by saying that.

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  51. In chapter 14, when Melba says that she wants to die, Grandma India carelessly exclaimed, "good idea" (Beals 160). She asks Melba how she plans on killing herself (Beals 160). Afterwards she kept on creating new headlines that newspapers would write after Melba's death. Grandma India says this with the intention of convincing Melba not to kill herself. She is being sarcastic when she tells her that it is a good idea to kill herself. Then, Grandma India explains to her that she needs to think about how she would explain to God her decision. I think this was a good answer that Grandma India gave Melba because it made Melba change her mind about killing herself. Reverse psychology was a very useful strategy that she used.

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  52. HECTOR BUENDIA RM 302May 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Grandma India responed to Melba saying " Good Idea" not even looking at Melba after she told her that she wanted to cut her self (Beals 160).Yes i do think its a respones because if Melba wants to die let her die but if peoople increiges her not to she might not do it because that show that people really do love her, care about her. I also think that it is a good idea because she should feel scared because people still tring to kill her so i think shes thinking whats the point of leaveing.

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  53. I think that the answer that Grandma India gave Melba was okay. How she told her to go ahed and see what she would tell God. How she failed the mission he had for her by taking her own life a way. Or how her friends and family would feel.Or the oher Litle Rock Nine. Or the head lines that she killed herself.
    So Grandma India told Melba to pray with her. Then they would talk or read(Beals 160-161). I think that the answer that Grandma India gave Melba was great. At least Melba thought about what her Grandma told her.

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  54. Grandma India responds by complimenting Melba's idea in a sacrcastic tone. She remarks, "Good idea! How did you plan about it?"..."The sooner you get started, the sooner you'll make the segregationists real happy. They'll love broadcasting the headlines across the world."(Beals 160). Yes, I do think that was a good answer because it made Melba realize how stupid her idea was.

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  55. Grandma India didn't really care about what Melba said. All Grandma India said was that was a good idea. She just told Melba that how did she plan to go along with it because Grandma India knows that if Melba dies that whites are going to think that she comitted suicide or killed herself because she couldn't take the whites. The whites are going to think that they won and that if one black is dead, that the rest of them are going to do the same.

    Melba notices that in her diary she's been writting the same thing over and over again. She's been writting that she wishes to die. That she wishes to become dead and then come back to life again. She then goes and tells her Grandma about what she's been thinking to do, but Melba didn't get the response that she wanted. Instead Grandma India responded by saying that okay, that if Melba wanted to die that, that was a good idea. That it's Melba's choice if she wants segregationists to say that Melba killed herself because she couldn't take on what the whites were doing to them. That the 9 black students couldn't take the pressure. Grandma India then told Melba about all the celebrations that whites were going to have, and all the big parties that were going to be planned. But that was enough for Melba, she had made up her mind and deciced that dying wasn't a good idea(Beals 160).

    For me this wasn't a good idea because that was just wrong of her thinking about dying. I know that in life we're all going to have problems and that we're going to wish to die, but what Melba is doing is good and if she wants to continue to integrate Central and not be mistreated, then okay. She shouldn't have tought about dying because this won't not only affect her but many people and people that she loves. When Melba said that to her Grandma, it looked like if her Grandma didn't care, but she did and I bet she got hurt because Melba's grandmother loves her and she doesn't want her to die because just thinking of that, it kills her to know that her grandauther wants to die adn just give up to what god wants her to continue on doing.

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  56. How grandma response when Melba expresses the desire to die is that she really doesn't care she just said good idea. She just says that and nothing else.

    A paraphrase is when Melba tells
    her grandma that she wish she would die so all the things that she is passing through would disapered and that she prayed to God
    about that and the grandma just said good idea. also that the grandma just said that and that she din't even look up to her to say something else and the grandma just kept on doing what she was doing(Beals 160).


    I think that this was not a good answer because she din't even give some good advice to melba she just said good idea. Also why i think that this was not a good answer because it made melba more confused and melbe din't know what to do and that is why she went whit her grandma so she could get some advice or so the grandma would say something to her so she wouldn't think that way.

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  57. In chapter 14 Melba's expression of dying to her grandma India leads to her grandma being sarcastic about it and telling her that she should go ahead and do it that is a very good idea to let them know that she gave up when her grandma told her that she was a warrior and she herself had done so too. Grandma India was trying to help her realize things and get the desire of her wanting to die away she wanted her to rethink over and if thats what she really wants. Grandma India also wanted to remember her that she was giving up and giving the white people the satisfaction of what they wanted and that they do get what they want and that they're better."And i said that's a good idea.The sooner you get started, the sooner you'll make the segrgationest real happy, they'll love broadcasting the headlines across the world" "Ive got it.The headlines will read"Little Rock Nine heroine gives in to segregaton"(beals 160). I think that was a good way of her Grandma India to give her that response because shell realize that she's letting them get away for what she worked foe and she's giving them the satisfaction.

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  58. Guillermo Hernandez 302May 13, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    One day Melba comes home from school and she starts to have a doubt that what if she doese'nt make it through the school year.She starts thinking that it would be better if she was dead.She tells her grandma and she responds in a way Melba would have never expected.She says "Good idea" (Beals 160).I think it was a good answer because she Grandma India is right.If she kills herself the other people are going to think that they are winning.Also she is going to give the media more to wright about.

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  59. The main important event was when Melba told her grandma that she wanted to kill herself. her gradma responded that if she killed herself she would give the segregationist what they wanted(Beals 160). I think her response was a good one because she was hinting for her not to do it. Also she just said that so Melba could change her mind. Melba might change her mind because she is a warrior of god and her mission is not complete

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  60. How Melba Grandma respond is when Melba wishes she were dead and she said " God please let me dead until the end of the year"(Beals159).grandma India responded in a positive way and she said that thats good if your gonna let your friends and the black people down thats your decision not mine and grandma India ignored her and said is a good idea and she started making headlines in a newspaper how shes gonna die and melba said "oh no mam"(beals 160)

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